Re: Two weeks to feature freeze

From: Bruce Momjian <pgman(at)candle(dot)pha(dot)pa(dot)us>
To: Dann Corbit <DCorbit(at)connx(dot)com>
Cc: Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>, Jason Earl <jason(dot)earl(at)simplot(dot)com>, PostgreSQL-development <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: Two weeks to feature freeze
Date: 2003-06-23 19:17:44
Message-ID: 200306231917.h5NJHia28272@candle.pha.pa.us
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Dann Corbit wrote:
> PostgreSQL is a fairly mature product, having been in existence in one
> form or another for many years now.
>
> I expect that most of the bugs that surface will be in areas of new
> functionality.
>
> Great Bridge had the right idea though. Let's suppose that they ran
> 10,000 tests and turned up only one bug. That would be just as valuable
> (if not more so) than turning up 100 bugs. A large, carefully designed
> test system is *proof* of software quality, or at least of the effort to
> determine the quality level. It is also proof of the responsibility of
> the software's originators.

Look at the cost/benefit ratio to that. If you think we don't have to
care about cost/benefit, well, it would be pretty amazing if we didn't.

> Scenario:
> You are going to install a tool that your organization will invest its
> future in.
>
> Vendor A: "We think our tool is pretty solid and our end users hardly
> ever turn up any bugs."
>
> Vendor B:" We think our tool is pretty solid and our 8500 tests
> currently show only 3 defects with the released version, and these are
> low impact issues. To view our current database of issues, log onto web
> form <page>."
>
> Which tool would you prefer to install?

I don't think commerical vendors, with those 8500 test, are are doing
any better in reliability than PostgreSQL, and in fact, I think they are
doing worse, and have to expend much more effort than we do.

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