Re: 7.4 features list

The delay is for Win32 _and_ PITR, hopefully both for 7.4.

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Brian wrote:
> As a postgresql user, and as someone who develops apps with postgresql,
> but does not do development FOR postgresql, I feel compelled to chime in
> here and agree.
>
> While I understand that there is a strong opinion that a win32 port will
> bring more attention to postgresql, and that this is a good thing, I would
> hate to see a release get delayed because of the port.
>
> I have several production systems using postgresql up and running now.
> One of these systems has been running for over a year and a half, with no
> downtime other than scheduled downtime for upgrades, and one hardware
> failure. In spite of this, I still have to fight constant political
> battles to keep this application on postgresql. Upper managers who have
> never heard of postgresql constantly comment about how maybe it would be
> better if we just used sybase or oracle, etc.
>
> Each new feature that gets released for postgresql gives me a little more
> ammunition to use in these discussions. Currently, the too biggest areas
> of contention are replication and just the "I've never heard of this
> 'postgres'" factor.
>
> While I know that replication is not coming for 7.4, I think that PITR
> would help. At least it would facilitate faster / easier recovery after a
> crash... not that I've ever had a crash.
>
> I have to think I'm not the only person in this sort of situation. While
> the win32 port may be very beneficial, I would hate to see a situation
> where the current installed base had to wait for a feature they needed
> because of the win32 port.
>
> Please, this is not meant to disparage the hard work of the win32 porters
> at all. I understand that bringing a wider user base into the fold can in
> the long term result in more resources to help continue to improve
> postgresql. I'm just saying that I would not want to see new features for
> the existing ports of postgresql put on hold because of a desire to have
> win32 in the next release, if it came down to that situation.
>
> I'd like to thank everyone involved in the postgresql project for creating
> such a fantastic tool!
>
> Brian Knox
> brian(at)mail(dot)pantalaimon(dot)net
>
>
> On Thu, 8 May 2003, Jan Wieck wrote:
>
> > Tom Lane wrote:
> > > [...]
> > > months ago, and they're not done. That gives me no confidence that
> > > they'll meet the next deadline we set. If September comes and we still
> > > have no working Win32 port, will you vote to delay again?
> >
> > I have to agree on this. Things like the Win32 port tend to take longer
> > and longer. With a release schedule every 3-6 months they'll just get
> > released whenever they're done. To hold back other improvements because
> > of them is not right.
> >
> >
> > Jan
> >
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