From: | Bruce Momjian <pgman(at)candle(dot)pha(dot)pa(dot)us> |
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To: | Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us> |
Cc: | Peter Eisentraut <peter_e(at)gmx(dot)net>, Neil Conway <neilc(at)samurai(dot)com>, Robert Treat <xzilla(at)users(dot)sourceforge(dot)net>, Ericson Smith <eric(at)did-it(dot)com>, Bruno Wolff III <bruno(at)wolff(dot)to>, Dmitry Tkach <dmitry(at)openratings(dot)com>, PostgreSQL General <pgsql-general(at)postgresql(dot)org> |
Subject: | Re: 7.4? |
Date: | 2003-03-06 17:05:35 |
Message-ID: | 200303061705.h26H5Zi05497@candle.pha.pa.us |
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Tom Lane wrote:
> Bruce Momjian <pgman(at)candle(dot)pha(dot)pa(dot)us> writes:
> > Also, as discussed in 7.3, I vote against a feature freeze that is
> > significantly earlier (>2 weeks) from the start of beta. We did that
> > for 7.2, and it paralized the end of the developement period.
>
> The problem there was not the feature freeze, it was that we kept
> slipping the beta date while we waited around for certain items
> to get done. The lesson I take away from the past couple releases
> is that you set a target beta date and then stick to it; features
> that aren't in on time don't get extensions.
OK, let's follow that logic. Do we have enough to justify a release
without any of those features? I don't think so.
> In other words, we shouldn't be waving our hands and saying "there's
> still plenty of time for these things to happen for 7.4". There's
> not, unless we go back to the previous philosophy of "we'll slip
> the release as long as it takes for something to happen". I think
> it's past time to light a fire under the folks who are supposedly
> doing these items.
I do remember in 7.2 an attempt to come to a controlled slowdown 4-6
weeks before we even planned on starting beta. The later problem was
that beta start was one month late, and then dragged, so there were
multiple problems with that release: stop features late July, early
August; beta scheduled September 1, started October 1; then dragged
waiting for fixes rather than backing out features.
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