Re: \d type queries - why not views in system catalog?!?

From: Bruce Momjian <pgman(at)candle(dot)pha(dot)pa(dot)us>
To: Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>
Cc: Peter Eisentraut <peter_e(at)gmx(dot)net>, Robert Treat <xzilla(at)users(dot)sourceforge(dot)net>, greg(at)turnstep(dot)com, pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org
Subject: Re: \d type queries - why not views in system catalog?!?
Date: 2003-01-14 00:15:58
Message-ID: 200301140015.h0E0Fwb18810@candle.pha.pa.us
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What should we do with the TODO item? Add question mark? Remove?

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Tom Lane wrote:
> Peter Eisentraut <peter_e(at)gmx(dot)net> writes:
> > Robert Treat writes:
> >> One idea I've always thought would be nice would be to make full fledged
> >> C functions out of the \ commands and ship them with the database.
>
> > The psql meta-commands are not a nicely designed set of queries that one
> > would encapsulate into a public library interface. They are created for
> > interactive use, representing precomposed views of the database that are
> > thought to be useful. If the ideas of usefulness change, then the
> > commands might change.
>
> I think that the proposal is to take describe.c more or less
> lock-stock-and-barrel out of psql and put it in the backend instead.
> It doesn't matter whether the views are orthogonal or useful for
> non-interactive purposes; they're defined to do whatever we think
> psql should show.
>
> The question is whether this gives us a useful amount of decoupling of
> psql from the backend version. Certainly the describe.c code is the
> stuff most subject to breakage across versions, but there are a lot of
> other aspects of psql that could still break. One fairly obvious
> example of backend-dependent psql code that won't be helped this way is
> the tab completion code.
>
> While I don't have any strong objection to moving the guts of these
> queries to the backend, I can't get real excited about it either;
> I suspect that psql will still be pretty version-dependent.
>
> regards, tom lane
>
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