From: | Bruce Momjian <pgman(at)candle(dot)pha(dot)pa(dot)us> |
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To: | Peter Eisentraut <peter_e(at)gmx(dot)net> |
Cc: | Lamar Owen <lamar(dot)owen(at)wgcr(dot)org>, "Marc G(dot) Fournier" <scrappy(at)hub(dot)org>, Ron Snyder <snyder(at)roguewave(dot)com>, Neil Conway <nconway(at)klamath(dot)dyndns(dot)org>, PostgreSQL-development <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>, Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us> |
Subject: | Re: Open 7.3 items |
Date: | 2002-08-14 17:35:25 |
Message-ID: | 200208141735.g7EHZP013018@candle.pha.pa.us |
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This email brings up another issue I have seen recently. The use of the
word "object", "strongly object", or "*object*" with stars is a very
confrontational way to express things. It does not foster discussion;
it really puts your heal in the ground and presents a very unswerving
attitude when it really isn't necessary nor valuable.
It is not just this email, but several people on this list who are doing
that now, and it is making for more negative discussions. Thomas has
mentioned it too.
As I have said before, everyone gets one vote. It doesn't matter how
hard to "object" to something. It is the force of your argument that
affects the votes, not how strongly you express your dislike of
something.
One effect of this environment is that you end up coding to avoid
"objections" rather than coding to meet users needs. Certainly the
people who express objections are providing valuable feedback to help
improve patches/features, but it should be done in a way that doesn't
give the impression they are in a courtroom and when you post something
incorrect, some lawyer is going to jump up and yell "object".
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Peter Eisentraut wrote:
> Bruce Momjian writes:
>
> > I had to add to initdb to create a file /data/PG_INSTALLER and have the
> > postmaster read that on startup to determine the installing user.
>
> I object to treating one user specially. There should be a general
> mechanism, such as a separate column in pg_shadow.
>
> I also object to fixing the name during initdb. We just got rid of that
> requirement.
>
> If it mattered, I would also object to the choice of the file name.
>
> --
> Peter Eisentraut peter_e(at)gmx(dot)net
>
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