Re: Democracy and organisation : let's make a revolution

On Thu, 20 Jun 2002, Jean-Michel POURE wrote:

> Le Jeudi 20 Juin 2002 15:22, Tom Lane a crit :
> > BTW, we do already have a recognized leadership group: the core
> > committee. The committee members mostly prefer to lead by example
> > and by consensus, rather than trying to impose their will on others,
> > which is maybe why you hadn't noticed.
>
> You are right. Leading by example and consensus is the way things work. If the
> committee can publish clear goals, there is no need to elect a leader.
>
> Now I realize my concern is about project management. Do you think the
> committee could publish a project web page showing who works on what?

No ... cause nobody works on anything specific ... they work on what
appeals to them, as it appeals to them ...

> Someone willing to help on a projet would view the page and contact
> developpers more easilly. Presently, there is no clear knowledge who is
> working on the W32 port or on replication. Using a project page, there
> would be less chances to see new forks of particular projects (W32,
> replication).

If someone workign on the w32 port isn't willing to announce such on
-hackers, how do you think we'd get that information for a web page? The
easiest way to 'contact developers' is to post to this list, and then you
don't restrict yourself to anyone one person, but everyone involved in teh
project ...

I think you are confusing a project on the scale of an operating system
with PgSQL ... an OS has to have someone at the top to make sure each
sub-package integrates well into the overall OS ... we *are* the
sub-package, and our "leaders" are essentially "our developers" ... we
have a core committee that consists of several of us that brought PgSQL
out of Berkeley and into the real world, but if you saw the archives for
that list, you woudln't see much, since we tend to try and keep all
discussions *on* -hackers ...