| From: | Bruce Momjian <pgman(at)candle(dot)pha(dot)pa(dot)us> | 
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| To: | Jan Wieck <janwieck(at)yahoo(dot)com> | 
| Cc: | Florian Wunderlich <fwunderlich(at)devbrain(dot)de>, Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>, pgsql-general(at)postgresql(dot)org | 
| Subject: | Re: persistent portals/cursors (between transactions) | 
| Date: | 2002-01-23 22:53:00 | 
| Message-ID: | 200201232253.g0NMr0a19641@candle.pha.pa.us | 
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> > But can't cursors not only be updateable inside transactions and
> > read-only outside transactions, as a work-around, which would bring
> > PostgreSQL at least a little closer to the standard?
> >
> > And in the long term, can't the lock that is acquired with FOR UPDATE be
> > released when the cursor is closed and not when the transaction is
> > finished?
> 
>     The way it has to be is that you say
> 
>         UPDATE ... WHERE CURRENT OF <cursor>
> 
>     My idea is to hold the CTID, retrieved via a junk  attribute,
>     of  the  last  FETCH'ed  row (of the table the locks are for)
>     inside of the cursor information, and basically  rewrite  the
>     WHERE CURRENT OF into a WHERE ctid = ... during parse.
> 
>     As  long  as  we  cannot  safely  hold such locks across Xact
>     boundaries and guarantee that rows locked that way don't  get
>     moved  by  vacuum,  I'd  vote for making cursors that are FOR
>     UPDATE inaccessable at Xact end.
> 
>     Reminds me that Al Dev is right. The law's of  physics  apply
>     to software!  Proof: vacuum sucks!
I am not sure that is true anymore of non-FULL vacuum.  I thought it
didn't move tids, though it will remove expired ones.  Tom?
Wonder if we should think of some kind of anti-FULL vacuum lock that can
be held during transactions with FOR UPDATE.
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