From: | Bruce Momjian <pgman(at)candle(dot)pha(dot)pa(dot)us> |
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To: | Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us> |
Cc: | PostgreSQL-development <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org> |
Subject: | Re: Pre-page images in WAL |
Date: | 2001-11-27 06:53:52 |
Message-ID: | 200111270653.fAR6rql26597@candle.pha.pa.us |
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> Bruce Momjian <pgman(at)candle(dot)pha(dot)pa(dot)us> writes:
> > I was wondering if we should disable the writing of pre-page images into
> > WAL if the user has turned off fsync?
>
> I'm worried about what vulnerabilities that would create.
>
> Historically we've always defined "fsync off" to mean "I trust my
> kernel, hardware, and power supply ... but not necessarily Postgres
> itself". In a Postgres crash, even with fsync off, you are not supposed
> to lose any committed transactions, so long as the kernel and hardware
> stay up.
>
> In the brave new world of WAL, Postgres does not flush dirty buffers to
> disk at transaction commit, relying on WAL to clean up if a database or
> system failure occurs. If we don't log page images to WAL then I think
> there's a hole here wherein a Postgres crash can lose data even though
> no failure of the surrounding OS occurs. Maybe it's safe, but I'm not
> convinced.
I understand. The only reason I mentioned this is because I thought
pre-page WAL was only to cache partially written disk pages.
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