From: | Lamar Owen <lamar(dot)owen(at)wgcr(dot)org> |
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To: | Peter Eisentraut <peter_e(at)gmx(dot)net> |
Cc: | PostgreSQL Development <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org> |
Subject: | Re: 7.2 RPMs |
Date: | 2001-09-17 22:18:13 |
Message-ID: | 200109172218.SAA27788@www.wgcr.org |
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On Monday 17 September 2001 05:44 pm, Peter Eisentraut wrote:
> ...useful in the sense that the work I'm doing becomes useful.
Ok. My mind is a little muddy right now, and different interpretations of
wordings aren't coming easily.
> The other thing is that no matter how you arrange it, libpgtcl.a and
> libpgtcl.so should be in the same package. I placed them in -devel for
> now since that is what you seemed to be intending anyway.
Yes, that is and was my intentions; I just missed the significance of what
you said. Of course, the .so and the .a need to be together in this instance
(like the libpq.so/libpq.a instance as well, which was addressed earlier in
the 7.1.x RPMset cycle).
> > Contrib, to my eyes, is both an example set as well as useful stuff.
> That used to be sort of true. Currently, contrib is more "useful stuff"
> than example. Examples are in the documentation and the tutorial
> directory.
Then the change is valid.
> > However, I'm concerned about your wording 'the way it was designed to be'
> > -- would you mind explaining exactly what you meant (a copy of your spec
> > file will explain far better than any narrative could, BTW)?
> I mean contrib is intended to be compiled, installed, and used.
Ok. I was more talking about location in the filesystem, but I get your
point.
> > 'docs-sgml' perhaps? Maybe they want to try their hand at using an SGML
> > editor/publishing system to generate various docs formats?
> Difficult without having a real source tree available.
Hmmm. I've not tried to do anything with the SGML yet....
> > Hmmm. Any suggestions as to location and name? Might I suggest
> > 'kludge-to-get-around-postgresql-lack-of-upgradability' -- or is that too
> > inflammatory? :-)
> No, but it's longer than the 14 characters that POSIX allows for file
> names. ;-) But "upgrade" is a reasonable start.
But we already had a pg_upgrade in the tarball. 'pg_migrate' perhaps? And
it _is_ a kludge.
> > > * What about the JDBC driver? I think the driver should be compiled in
> > > place by whatever JDK the build system provides.
> >
> > Got an open source JDK suggestion? One that is _standard_ for the target
> > distributions?
> There is no standard C compiler in the target distributions either...
Gcc is the de facto linux distribution standard, and one can reasonably
assume that a standard C compiler is present. The same is not true of JDK's,
AFAIK.
> Note that the choice of JDK is actually hidden from the build process.
> You just need Ant, which comes in RPM form.
Hmmm. How does one get started with 'Ant' and a JDK? I personally don't use
Java -- but heretofore it's been easy to get jars of the JDBC to package for
people who do use Java. Is a JDBC RPM package something people are actively
using? I _have_ received a few questions from people trying to use the JDBC
RPM, so I think it is a useful thing to have.
Somebody who knows Java: enlighten me on the portability or lack thereof of
our distributed JDBC RPM's jar, please. If I can build a reasonably portable
jar of our JDBC,I'm willing to try.
--
Lamar Owen
WGCR Internet Radio
1 Peter 4:11
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