From: | Bruce Momjian <pgman(at)candle(dot)pha(dot)pa(dot)us> |
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To: | Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us> |
Cc: | Zeugswetter Andreas SB <ZeugswetterA(at)wien(dot)spardat(dot)at>, Jan Wieck <JanWieck(at)Yahoo(dot)com>, pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org |
Subject: | Re: AW: Coping with huge deferred-trigger lists |
Date: | 2001-05-10 14:57:07 |
Message-ID: | 200105101457.f4AEv7624637@candle.pha.pa.us |
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> BTW, I don't think the overwriting-smgr idea is a done deal. We haven't
> seen any design yet for exactly how it should work. Moreover, I'm
> really hesitant to throw away one of the fundamental design choices of
> Postgres: overwriting smgr is one of the things that got us to where we
> are today. Before we commit to that, we ought to do some serious study
> of the alternatives. ISTM the problem with VACUUM is not that you need
> to do a regular maintenance procedure, it's that it grabs an exclusive
> lock on the table for so long. We could live with VACUUM if it could be
> made either incremental (do a few pages and release the lock) or capable
> of running in parallel with reader & writer transactions. Vadim's
> still-not-integrated LAZY VACUUM code is an indicator that progress
> might be made in that direction. (Actually, I suppose if you look at it
> in the right way, you might think that a backgroundable VACUUM *is* an
> overwriting smgr, just an asynchronous implementation of it...)
I agree overwriting storage manager is not a done deal, and I don't see
us eliminating it entirely. We have to keep the old tuples in scope, so
I assume we would just create new tuples, and reuse the expired tuples
once they were out of scope.
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