From: | Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us> |
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To: | Josef Šimánek <josef(dot)simanek(at)gmail(dot)com> |
Cc: | Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>, Tomas Vondra <tomas(dot)vondra(at)enterprisedb(dot)com>, "David G(dot) Johnston" <david(dot)g(dot)johnston(at)gmail(dot)com>, Laurenz Albe <laurenz(dot)albe(at)cybertec(dot)at>, PostgreSQL Hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)lists(dot)postgresql(dot)org> |
Subject: | Re: [PATCH] Add --syntax to postgres for SQL syntax checking |
Date: | 2024-05-15 18:39:47 |
Message-ID: | 1809846.1715798387@sss.pgh.pa.us |
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=?UTF-8?B?Sm9zZWYgxaBpbcOhbmVr?= <josef(dot)simanek(at)gmail(dot)com> writes:
> I'm not sure everyone in this thread understands the reason for this
> patch, which is clearly my fault, since I have failed to explain. Main
> idea is to make a tool to validate query can be parsed, that's all.
> Similar to running "EXPLAIN query", but not caring about the result
> and not caring about the DB structure (ignoring missing tables, ...),
> just checking it was successfully executed. This definitely belongs to
> the server side and not to the client side, it is just a tool to
> validate that for this running PostgreSQL backend it is a "parseable"
> query.
The thing that was bothering me most about this is that I don't
understand why that's a useful check. If I meant to type
UPDATE mytab SET mycol = 42;
and instead I type
UPDATEE mytab SET mycol = 42;
your proposed feature would catch that; great. But if I type
UPDATE mytabb SET mycol = 42;
it won't. How does that make sense? I'm not entirely sure where
to draw the line about what a "syntax check" should catch, but this
seems a bit south of what I'd want in a syntax-checking editor.
BTW, if you do feel that a pure grammar check is worthwhile, you
should look at the ecpg preprocessor, which does more or less that
with the SQL portions of its input. ecpg could be a better model
to follow because it doesn't bring all the dependencies of the server
and so is much more likely to appear in a client-side installation.
It's kind of an ugly, unmaintained mess at the moment, sadly.
The big knock on doing this client-side is that there might be
version skew compared to the server you're using --- but if you
are not doing anything beyond a grammar-level check then your
results are pretty approximate anyway, ISTM. We've not heard
anything suggesting that version skew is a huge problem for
ecpg users.
regards, tom lane
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