Re: Replace current implementations in crypt() and gen_salt() to OpenSSL

From: Joe Conway <mail(at)joeconway(dot)com>
To: Daniel Gustafsson <daniel(at)yesql(dot)se>
Cc: Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>, Peter Eisentraut <peter(at)eisentraut(dot)org>, "Koshi Shibagaki (Fujitsu)" <shibagaki(dot)koshi(at)fujitsu(dot)com>, "pgsql-hackers(at)lists(dot)postgresql(dot)org" <pgsql-hackers(at)lists(dot)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: Replace current implementations in crypt() and gen_salt() to OpenSSL
Date: 2024-12-04 14:52:52
Message-ID: 17ebbc5c-268f-4b37-ac24-40480744bd5d@joeconway.com
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On 12/4/24 09:45, Daniel Gustafsson wrote:
>> On 4 Dec 2024, at 15:40, Joe Conway <mail(at)joeconway(dot)com> wrote:
>>
>> On 12/4/24 09:33, Daniel Gustafsson wrote:
>>> since OpenSSL 1.1.1 cannot operate in FIPS mode.
>>
>> I don't think that is correct. The RHEL 8 openssl which was FIPS 140-2 validated is 1.1.1k. See:
>>
>> https://csrc.nist.gov/CSRC/media/projects/cryptographic-module-validation-program/documents/security-policies/140sp4642.pdf
>
> Does RHEL publish the source of their fork somewhere? In OpenSSL 1.1.1 the
> code for FIPS_mode is:
>
> int FIPS_mode(void)
> {
> /* This version of the library does not support FIPS mode. */
> return 0;
> }
>
> Do you know if RHEL patched OpenSSL to allow FIPS_mode() to return other than 0
> or if that function is useless regardless?

Yes the RHEL and OpenSUSE rpms for openssl are heavily patched for the
FIPS versions, as is the Ubuntu one. It has been a while but last time I
looked at all of this they were all using very similar patches to allow
the "system wide" FIPS mode rather than depending on the app to
explicitly go into FIPS_mode().

I can look for links, but investigating it involved (for example)
installing the source rpm and then wading through hundreds of patches in
the SOURCE directory.

--
Joe Conway
PostgreSQL Contributors Team
RDS Open Source Databases
Amazon Web Services: https://aws.amazon.com

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