From: | Scot Kreienkamp <SKreien(at)la-z-boy(dot)com> |
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To: | John R Pierce <pierce(at)hogranch(dot)com>, "pgsql-general(at)postgresql(dot)org" <pgsql-general(at)postgresql(dot)org> |
Subject: | Re: idle in transaction query makes server unresponsive |
Date: | 2012-09-25 20:35:20 |
Message-ID: | 17082AAFC33A934082836458CB53494357CF636F@MONEXCH01.na.lzb.hq |
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: pgsql-general-owner(at)postgresql(dot)org [mailto:pgsql-general-
> owner(at)postgresql(dot)org] On Behalf Of John R Pierce
> Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2012 3:53 PM
> To: pgsql-general(at)postgresql(dot)org
> Subject: Re: [GENERAL] idle in transaction query makes server unresponsive
>
> On 09/25/12 12:23 PM, Scot Kreienkamp wrote:
> >
> > I have a problem that I've been struggling with for quite some time.
> > Every once in a while I will get a connection that goes to idle in
> > transaction on an in-house programmed application that connects with
> > JDBC. That happens fairly regularly and the programmers are trying to
> > clean that up, but sometimes the idle in transaction connection makes
> > the PG server entirely unresponsive. I'm not getting connection
> > refused, nothing. All connections existing or new, JDBC or psql, just
> > hang. I've already got full query logging on to try to catch the
> > problem query or connection so I can give the developers somewhere to
> > look to resolve their issue with the application, but since queries
> > are logged with runtimes I'm assuming they are only logged after they
> > are complete. And since it's idle in transaction it never completes
> > so it never gets logged. Our application is connecting as an
> > unprivileged user named rmstomcat, and the database is limited to 400
> > connections out of 512. I'm not running out of connections as I've
> > got reserved connections set, and even connecting as user postgres
> > with psql the connection just hangs. The server doesn't appear to be
> > running out of memory when this happens and nothing is printed in the
> > log. The only thing that resolves it is doing a kill on the PID of
> > any idle in transaction connections existing at the time causing them
> > to roll back. Then everything else picks up right where it left off
> > and works again.
> >
> > Can anyone give me any hints about why PG becomes unresponsive? Or
> > how to fix it so it doesn't?
> >
>
>
> that is a LOT of connections. you likely should be limiting that with
> a connection pooler, and configuring your application to ...
>
> 1) get connection from pool
> 2) execute transaction
> 3) release connection to pool
>
> then configure the pool to stall the requester when some sane number of
> connections has been reached, like no more than 2-3X the number of CPU
> cores or hardware threads you have. you'll likely get better overall
> throughput.
>
> if you have jobs that execute long running queries for reporting etc,
> have those use a seperate smaller pool.
>
> re: your logging.... <idle in transaction> means that connection has no
> query running but started a transaction. there's no pending query on
> that connection. these are normally only a concern when they go on
> for a long time, say 10 minutes or more. however, if that transaction
> has gotten locks on resources, and is then sitting on its thumbs doing
> nothing, OTHER connections likely will block. join pg_stat_activity
> with pg_locks to find out what all is going on..
>
[Scot Kreienkamp]
Hi John,
The application is using a pooler and generally runs around 100 connections, but I've seen it as high as 200 during the day for normal use. It's on a large server; 64 cores total and about 500 gigs of memory. That's one of the reasons I left it at 512 connections. The idle in transaction connections are getting locks and then going idle in transaction causing the queries to be waiting in that database. That I can understand. My problem is that I can't run a query to see what exactly it's doing because the entire Postgres server is unresponsive. I can't even use psql to connect to the postgres user database as user postgres so I can query pg_stat_activity, that hangs also until I kill the idle in transaction query PID. That's what my dilemma is. The server hardware itself is not being stressed when that's happening though, so it doesn't appear to be a resource problem, but I can't check because I can't see what PG is doing.
The problem is how do I investigate this when PG is entirely unresponsive? Why is it becoming unresponsive, and how do I prevent the PG server from becoming unresponsive?
Thanks!
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