From: | Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us> |
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To: | Andres Freund <andres(at)anarazel(dot)de> |
Cc: | Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>, pgsql-hackers(at)lists(dot)postgresql(dot)org |
Subject: | Re: Atomic operations within spinlocks |
Date: | 2020-06-06 01:01:56 |
Message-ID: | 1642804.1591405316@sss.pgh.pa.us |
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Andres Freund <andres(at)anarazel(dot)de> writes:
> I wrote a patch for this, and when I got around to to testing it, I
> found that our tests currently don't pass when using both
> --disable-spinlocks and --disable-atomics. Turns out to not be related
> to the issue above, but the global barrier support added in 13.
> That *reads* two 64 bit atomics in a signal handler. Which is normally
> fine, but not at all cool when atomics (or just 64 bit atomics) are
> backed by spinlocks. Because we can "self interrupt" while already
> holding the spinlock.
This is the sort of weird platform-specific problem that I'd prefer to
avoid by minimizing our expectations of what spinlocks can be used for.
> I'm not really sure what to do about that issue. The easisest thing
> would probably be to change the barrier generation to 32bit (which
> doesn't have to use locks for reads in any situation).
Yeah, I think we need a hard rule that you can't use a spinlock in
an interrupt handler --- which means no atomics that don't have
non-spinlock implementations on every platform.
At some point I think we'll have to give up --disable-spinlocks;
it's really of pretty marginal use (how often does anyone port PG
to a new CPU type?) and the number of weird interactions it adds
in this area seems like more than it's worth. But of course
requiring 64-bit atomics is still a step too far.
> Randomly noticed while looking at the code:
> uint64 flagbit = UINT64CONST(1) << (uint64) type;
I'm surprised we didn't get any compiler warnings about that.
regards, tom lane
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