Re: Speeding up pg_upgrade

From: Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>
To: Stephen Frost <sfrost(at)snowman(dot)net>
Cc: Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>, Alvaro Herrera <alvherre(at)alvh(dot)no-ip(dot)org>, Alexander Kukushkin <cyberdemn(at)gmail(dot)com>, Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us>, PostgreSQL-development <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: Speeding up pg_upgrade
Date: 2017-12-07 18:56:22
Message-ID: 14665.1512672982@sss.pgh.pa.us
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Stephen Frost <sfrost(at)snowman(dot)net> writes:
> If we go down that route, since this makes a pretty serious difference
> in terms of what the user has to deal with post-pg_upgrade, I'd suggest
> we require an additional option for the user to pass when stats aren't
> going to be migrated, so they are aware of that.

-1 ... you are forgetting that a lot of systems wrap pg_upgrade in some
sort of vendor-supplied upgrade script. Nanny switches don't help;
the vendors will just start passing them automatically.

> Of course, this might end up having an entirely different effect: it
> might mean that we're suddenly a lot shier about changing the stats in a
> backwards-incompatible way, just as we now are basically stuck with the
> existing on-disk heap format..

Yeah, there's that. But the rate of change in pg_statistic hasn't been
*that* large. Alvaro might be right that we can design some transmission
procedure that allows stats to be forward-migrated when compatible and
dropped when not.

regards, tom lane

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