From: | Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us> |
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To: | ITAGAKI Takahiro <itagaki(dot)takahiro(at)oss(dot)ntt(dot)co(dot)jp> |
Cc: | pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org |
Subject: | Re: Aggressive freezing in lazy-vacuum |
Date: | 2007-03-07 04:34:57 |
Message-ID: | 14520.1173242097@sss.pgh.pa.us |
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ITAGAKI Takahiro <itagaki(dot)takahiro(at)oss(dot)ntt(dot)co(dot)jp> writes:
> Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us> wrote:
>> I said nothing about expired tuples. The point of not freezing is to
>> preserve information about the insertion time of live tuples.
> I don't know what good it will do -- for debugging?
Exactly. As an example, I've been chasing offline a report from Merlin
Moncure about duplicate entries in a unique index; I still don't know
what exactly is going on there, but the availability of knowledge about
which transactions inserted which entries has been really helpful. If
we had a system designed to freeze tuples as soon as possible, that info
would have been gone forever pretty soon after the problem happened.
I don't say that this behavior can never be acceptable, but you need
much more than a marginal performance improvement to convince me that
it's worth the loss of forensic information.
regards, tom lane
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