From: | Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us> |
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To: | Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com> |
Cc: | Amit Kapila <amit(dot)kapila16(at)gmail(dot)com>, amul sul <sulamul(at)gmail(dot)com>, PostgreSQL-development <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org> |
Subject: | Re: [Patch] ALTER SYSTEM READ ONLY |
Date: | 2020-06-17 16:27:48 |
Message-ID: | 1448927.1592411268@sss.pgh.pa.us |
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Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com> writes:
> This seems like pretty dubious hand-waving. Of course, things that
> write WAL are going to be broken by a switch that prevents writing
> WAL; but if they were not, there would be no purpose in having such a
> switch, so that's not really an argument. But you seem to have mixed
> in some things that don't require writing WAL, and claimed without
> evidence that those would somehow also be broken.
Which of the things I mentioned don't require writing WAL?
You're right that these are the same things that we already forbid on a
standby, for the same reason, so maybe it won't be as hard to identify
them as I feared. I wonder whether we should envision this as "demote
primary to standby" rather than an independent feature.
>> I also think that putting such a thing into ALTER SYSTEM has got big
>> logical problems.
> ... no right-thinking person would ever propose to
> change a feature that renders the system read-only in such a way that
> it was impossible to deactivate it. That would be nuts.
My point was that putting this in ALTER SYSTEM paints us into a corner
as to what we can do with ALTER SYSTEM in the future: we won't ever be
able to make that do anything that would require writing WAL. And I
don't entirely believe your argument that that will never be something
we'd want to do.
regards, tom lane
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