Re: Proposal: Expose oldest xmin as SQL function for monitoring

From: Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>
To: James Coleman <jtc331(at)gmail(dot)com>
Cc: pgsql-hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: Proposal: Expose oldest xmin as SQL function for monitoring
Date: 2020-04-01 21:45:02
Message-ID: 14378.1585777502@sss.pgh.pa.us
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James Coleman <jtc331(at)gmail(dot)com> writes:
> To my knowledge the current oldest xmin (GetOldestXmin() if I'm not
> mistaken) isn't exposed directly in any view or function by Postgres.

You could do something like

select max(age(backend_xmin)) from pg_stat_activity;

though I'm not sure whether that accounts for absolutely every process.

> Am I missing anything in the above description? And if not, would
> there be any reason why we would want to avoid exposing that
> information? And if not, then would exposing it as a function be
> acceptable?

The fact that I had to use max(age(...)) in that sample query
hints at one reason: it's really hard to do arithmetic correctly
on raw XIDs. Dealing with wraparound is a problem, and knowing
what's past or future is even harder. What use-case do you
foresee exactly?

regards, tom lane

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