Re: allow changing autovacuum_max_workers without restarting

From: Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>
To: Nathan Bossart <nathandbossart(at)gmail(dot)com>
Cc: Andres Freund <andres(at)anarazel(dot)de>, pgsql-hackers(at)lists(dot)postgresql(dot)org, "Imseih (AWS), Sami" <simseih(at)amazon(dot)com>, Justin Pryzby <pryzby(at)telsasoft(dot)com>, "pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org" <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: allow changing autovacuum_max_workers without restarting
Date: 2025-01-06 23:36:43
Message-ID: 1359669.1736206603@sss.pgh.pa.us
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Nathan Bossart <nathandbossart(at)gmail(dot)com> writes:
> On Mon, Jan 06, 2025 at 05:36:17PM -0500, Tom Lane wrote:
>> You'd have to think about how
>> it should interact with initdb's probes for workable values of
>> max_connections. My first thought about that is to have initdb
>> set autovacuum_worker_slots to max_connections / 8 or thereabouts
>> as it works down the list of max_connections values to try. Or
>> you could do something more complicated, but I don't see a reason
>> to make it too complex.

> My first instinct was just to set it to the lowest default we'd consider
> during the max_connections tests (which I'm assuming is 3 due to the
> current default for autovacuum_max_workers). That way, the max_connections
> default won't change from version to version on affected systems, but you
> might get some extra autovacuum slots.

My only objection to this algorithm is it adds cycles to initdb,
in the form of at least one additional "postgres --check" step.
Admittedly that's not hugely expensive, but it'll add up over time
in the buildfarm, and I'm not sure this issue is worth that.
We already changed the max_connections default for affected systems
as a consequence of 38da05346, so I don't think the argument about not
changing it holds much water.

regards, tom lane

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