Re: Intermittent buildfarm failures on wrasse

From: Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>
To: Peter Geoghegan <pg(at)bowt(dot)ie>
Cc: PostgreSQL Hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)lists(dot)postgresql(dot)org>, Andres Freund <andres(at)anarazel(dot)de>
Subject: Re: Intermittent buildfarm failures on wrasse
Date: 2022-04-13 22:54:06
Message-ID: 1349964.1649890446@sss.pgh.pa.us
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Peter Geoghegan <pg(at)bowt(dot)ie> writes:
> On Wed, Apr 13, 2022 at 3:08 PM Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us> wrote:
>> I'm tempted to add something like
>> SELECT relallvisible = relpages FROM pg_class WHERE relname = 'tenk1';
>> so that we can confirm or refute the theory that relallvisible is
>> the driving factor.

> It would be fairly straightforward to commit a temporary debugging
> patch that has the autovacuum logging stuff report directly on how
> VACUUM set new_rel_allvisible in pg_class. We should probably be doing
> that already, just because it's useful information that is already
> close at hand.

Doesn't look like wrasse has autovacuum logging enabled, though.

After a bit more navel-contemplation I see a way that the pgstats
work could have changed timing in this area. We used to have a
rate limit on how often stats reports would be sent to the
collector, which'd ensure half a second or so delay before a
transaction's change counts became visible to the autovac daemon.
I've not looked at the new code, but I'm betting that that's gone
and the autovac launcher might start a worker nearly immediately
after some foreground process finishes inserting some rows.
So that could result in autovac activity occurring concurrently
with test_setup where it didn't before.

As to what to do about it ... maybe apply the FREEZE and
DISABLE_PAGE_SKIPPING options in test_setup's vacuums?
It seems like DISABLE_PAGE_SKIPPING is necessary but perhaps
not sufficient.

regards, tom lane

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