From: | Alvaro Herrera <alvherre(at)commandprompt(dot)com> |
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To: | Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com> |
Cc: | Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>, Marti Raudsepp <marti(at)juffo(dot)org>, pgsql-hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org> |
Subject: | Re: [PATCH] Log crashed backend's query (activity string) |
Date: | 2011-09-07 19:42:45 |
Message-ID: | 1315424436-sup-2007@alvh.no-ip.org |
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Excerpts from Robert Haas's message of mar sep 06 19:57:07 -0300 2011:
> On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 6:05 PM, Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us> wrote:
> > Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com> writes:
> >> On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 5:34 PM, Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us> wrote:
> >>> And I doubt
> >>> that the goal is worth taking risks for.
> >
> >> I am unable to count the number of times that I have had a customer
> >> come to me and say "well, the backend crashed". And I go look at
> >> their logs and I have no idea what happened.
> >
> > gdb and print debug_query_string?
>
> Surely you're kidding. These are customer systems which I frequently
> don't even have access to. They don't always have gdb installed
> (sometimes they are Windows systems) and if they do the customer isn't
> likely to know how to use it, and even if they do they don't think the
> better of us for needing such a tool to troubleshoot a crash.
I'm with Robert on this ... been there, got that look.
> TBH, I'm very unclear what could cause the postmaster to go belly-up
> copying a bounded amount of data out of shared memory for logging
> purposes only. It's surely possible to make the code safe against any
> sequence of bytes that might be found there.
A mishandled encoding conversion could be problematic, so that needs to
be carefully considered (perhaps just shut off unconditionally).
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Álvaro Herrera <alvherre(at)commandprompt(dot)com>
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