From: | Alvaro Herrera <alvherre(at)commandprompt(dot)com> |
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To: | Greg Sabino Mullane <greg(at)turnstep(dot)com> |
Cc: | pgsql-general <pgsql-general(at)postgresql(dot)org> |
Subject: | Re: No PL/PHP ? Any reason? |
Date: | 2010-06-22 16:07:58 |
Message-ID: | 1277221497-sup-2144@alvh.no-ip.org |
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Excerpts from Greg Sabino Mullane's message of mar jun 22 13:51:35 UTC 2010:
> > I mean, I love my Tcl support, and I know this is part of PG's
> > legacy... but Tcl and no PHP? I figure there's a tech reason for
> > this - the demand must be there! No?
>
> No, I'd say the demand is most definitely not there. I support a
> great number of clients, and pretty much everyone uses pl/pgsql,
> a great many use pl/perl, and a handful use pl/tcl or pl/python
> or pl/ruby. Nobody uses pl/php.
Hey, Robert Treat uses it -- he even gives talks about it, I hear!
> Some major strikes against it (consider these todo items for
> those who would like to see pl/php live again):
>
> * No trusted/untrusted versions
Not true, actually.
> * Not in core
Yeah. It has been proposed and shot down several times by -core and
others. The reason given is that you'd have to build PHP twice (or
something like that) -- there's a configure chicken-and-egg problem, or
something. It is a fairly bad reason, but it's what we got.
> * Not even in contrib or pgfoundry or github
pgfoundry is such a paradise, yes, I'm sure everyone agrees. As for
github, I don't think it existed back when PL/php started. It's
currently hosted in Command Prompt's Redmine site.
Maybe we should have a pgfoundry web-only site that directed the
prospective user to the Redmine site ...
> * The documentation is a mess (dead URLs, mislabelled sections)
No surprise :-( I hasn't been touched since moving from Trac.
> * PHP is not as stable, mature, secure, or well designed as Perl/Tcl/Python.
> Which makes Postgres people less likely to consider it.
Absolutely true.
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Álvaro Herrera <alvherre(at)commandprompt(dot)com>
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