Re: max_standby_delay considered harmful

From: "Joshua D(dot) Drake" <jd(at)commandprompt(dot)com>
To: Simon Riggs <simon(at)2ndQuadrant(dot)com>
Cc: Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>, Fujii Masao <masao(dot)fujii(at)gmail(dot)com>, Andres Freund <andres(at)anarazel(dot)de>, Florian Pflug <fgp(at)phlo(dot)org>, Dimitri Fontaine <dfontaine(at)hi-media(dot)com>, Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>, pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org, Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us>, Greg Smith <greg(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, Josh Berkus <josh(at)agliodbs(dot)com>
Subject: Re: max_standby_delay considered harmful
Date: 2010-05-12 18:01:51
Message-ID: 1273687311.8624.2908.camel@jd-desktop.unknown.charter.com
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On Wed, 2010-05-12 at 17:49 +0100, Simon Riggs wrote:
> On Wed, 2010-05-12 at 12:04 -0400, Robert Haas wrote:

> Normal shutdown didn't work on a standby before HS was committed and it
> didn't work afterwards either. Use all the capitals you like but if you
> use poor arguments and combine that with no evidence then we'll not get
> very far, either in working together or in solving the actual bugs.
> Please don't continue to make wild speculations about things related to
> HS and recovery, so that issues do not become confused; there is no need
> to comment on every thread.
>

Simon,

People are very passionate about this feature. This feature has the
ability to show us as moving forward in a fashion that will allow us to
directly compete with the "big boys" in the "big installs", although we
are still probably 2-3 releases from that.

It also has the ability to make us look like a bunch of yahoos (no pun
intended) who are better served beating up on that database that Oracle
just bought, versus Oracle itself.

Patience is a virtue for all when it comes to the this feature.

Joshua D. Drake

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