Re: Feedback on getting rid of VACUUM FULL

From: Hannu Krosing <hannu(at)2ndQuadrant(dot)com>
To: Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>
Cc: Simon Riggs <simon(at)2ndQuadrant(dot)com>, Heikki Linnakangas <heikki(dot)linnakangas(at)enterprisedb(dot)com>, Josh Berkus <josh(at)agliodbs(dot)com>, pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org
Subject: Re: Feedback on getting rid of VACUUM FULL
Date: 2009-09-17 14:31:08
Message-ID: 1253197868.778.181.camel@hvost1700
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On Thu, 2009-09-17 at 10:21 -0400, Tom Lane wrote:
> Hannu Krosing <hannu(at)2ndQuadrant(dot)com> writes:
> > On Wed, 2009-09-16 at 21:19 -0400, Tom Lane wrote:
> >> VACUUM FULL CONCURRENTLY is a contradiction in terms. Wishing it were
> >> possible doesn't make it so.
>
> > It depends on what do you mean by "VACUUM FULL"
>
> Anything that moves tuples is not acceptable as a hidden background
> operation,

I did not mean VACUUM FULL to be run as a hidden background operation.
just as something that does not need everything else to be shut down.

> because it will break applications that depend on CTID.

Do you know of any such applications out in the wild ?

> The utility Heikki is talking about is something that DBAs would
> invoke explicitly, presumably with an understanding of the side effects.

Like VACUUM FULL ?

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Hannu Krosing http://www.2ndQuadrant.com
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