From: | Jeff Davis <pgsql(at)j-davis(dot)com> |
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To: | Heikki Linnakangas <heikki(dot)linnakangas(at)enterprisedb(dot)com> |
Cc: | PostgreSQL-development <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>, Peter Eisentraut <peter_e(at)gmx(dot)net> |
Subject: | Re: Visibility map and freezing |
Date: | 2008-12-23 19:32:29 |
Message-ID: | 1230060749.5854.74.camel@dell.linuxdev.us.dell.com |
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On Mon, 2008-12-22 at 21:24 +0200, Heikki Linnakangas wrote:
> Introduce new vacuum_freeze_max_age setting. Manual VACUUM will scan the
> whole table and advance relfrozenxid, if relfrozenxid is older than
> vacuum_freeze_max_age.
>
It's confusing to have two GUCs named vacuum_freeze_min_age and
vacuum_freeze_max_age with incompatible definitions. The former is the
minimum transaction age of a tuple found during the scan of a table,
while the latter is the maximum transaction age of the relfrozenxid of
the table.
> If you set vacuum_freeze_max_age to 0, the visibility map is not used to
> skip pages, so you'll get the pre-8.4 old behavior.
Seems like a strange way to turn off visibility maps, and the meaning
doesn't seem to fit with either vacuum_freeze_min_age or
autovacuum_freeze_max_age.
The proposal itself makes sense, but I think we need to decide on some
better names. Right now the meanings of autovacuum_freeze_max_age and
vacuum_freeze_min_age are incompatible, so we're not in a good position,
but there has to be something less confusing.
For one thing, there isn't even a common definition of "min" or "max"
between them. They both trigger an event (freezing or vacuuming) when
something (tuple xmin or relfrozenxid) exceeds some number. Why is one
called a min and the other a max?
Regards,
Jeff Davis
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