From: | Zeugswetter Andreas SB <ZeugswetterA(at)wien(dot)spardat(dot)at> |
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To: | "'Tom Lane'" <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us> |
Cc: | "'Hiroshi Inoue'" <Inoue(at)tpf(dot)co(dot)jp>, pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org |
Subject: | AW: AW: AW: AW: relation ### modified while in use |
Date: | 2000-10-23 15:00:27 |
Message-ID: | 11C1E6749A55D411A9670001FA6879633680C5@sdexcsrv1.f000.d0188.sd.spardat.at |
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> > You were talking about the "select only" case (and no for update eighter).
> > I think that select statements need a shared lock for the duration of their
> > execution only.
>
> You seem to think that locks on individual tuples conflict with
> table-wide locks.
Yes, very much so. Any other way would be subject to the same quirks
you would like to avoid, no ?
> AFAIK that's not true.
well, imho room for improvement.
> The only way to prevent
> another xact from gaining AccessExclusiveLock on a table is to be
> holding some lock *on the table*.
Yes, and holding a row exclusive lock must imho at least grab a shared
table lock (to avoid several problems, like missing an index update,
inserting a null into a newly added not null column ...).
Alternately the table exclusive lock could honour row locks
(probably not possible, since we don't track those do we ?).
> As for your claim that read-only xacts don't need to worry about
> preventing schema updates, what of adding/deleting ON SELECT rules?
Well, depends on what that rule does, you mean a new rule ?
Ad hoc I don't see a problem based on the idea that all modification gets
appropriate locks.
Andreas
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