From: | Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us> |
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To: | "Mark Cave-Ayland" <m(dot)cave-ayland(at)webbased(dot)co(dot)uk> |
Cc: | "'Manfred Koizar'" <mkoi-pg(at)aon(dot)at>, "'Greg Stark'" <gsstark(at)mit(dot)edu>, "'Bruce Momjian'" <pgman(at)candle(dot)pha(dot)pa(dot)us>, pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org |
Subject: | Re: Cost of XLogInsert CRC calculations |
Date: | 2005-05-31 14:24:16 |
Message-ID: | 11843.1117549456@sss.pgh.pa.us |
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"Mark Cave-Ayland" <m(dot)cave-ayland(at)webbased(dot)co(dot)uk> writes:
>> Alternatively, we might say that 64-bit CRC was overkill from
>> day one, and we'd rather get the additional 10% or 20% or so
>> speedup. I'm kinda leaning in that direction, but only weakly.
> What would you need to persuade you either way? I believe that disk drives
> use CRCs internally to verify that the data has been read correctly from
> each sector. If the majority of the errors would be from a disk failure,
> then a corrupt sector would have to pass the drive CRC *and* the PostgreSQL
> CRC in order for an XLog entry to be considered valid. I would have thought
> the chances of this being able to happen would be reasonably small and so
> even with CRC32 this can be detected fairly accurately.
It's not really a matter of backstopping the hardware's error detection;
if we were trying to do that, we'd keep a CRC for every data page, which
we don't. The real reason for the WAL CRCs is as a reliable method of
identifying the end of WAL: when the "next record" doesn't checksum you
know it's bogus. This is a nontrivial point because of the way that we
re-use WAL files --- the pages beyond the last successfully written page
aren't going to be zeroes, they'll be filled with random WAL data.
Personally I think CRC32 is plenty for this job, but there were those
arguing loudly for CRC64 back when we made the decision originally ...
regards, tom lane
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