From: | Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us> |
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To: | "Zeugswetter Andreas SB SD" <ZeugswetterA(at)spardat(dot)at> |
Cc: | "Jan Wieck" <JanWieck(at)Yahoo(dot)com>, pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org |
Subject: | Re: tuptoaster.c must *not* use SnapshotAny |
Date: | 2002-01-16 18:06:01 |
Message-ID: | 11420.1011204361@sss.pgh.pa.us |
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"Zeugswetter Andreas SB SD" <ZeugswetterA(at)spardat(dot)at> writes:
> Can you try give me a hint, why an aborted VACUUM FULL will not allways be
> a problem (also for other operations) until you run another VACUUM FULL
> that succeeds ?
Because noplace else uses SnapshotAny, basically. The only really
legitimate use I can see for it is in Tatsuo's contrib/pgstattuple
hack: that wants to count both visible and invisible tuples.
> How do we know, that a (newly) FrozenXid tuple does not still have
> a (visible) duplicate ?
It's *not* visible, if you are applying any visibility checks whatever.
But SnapshotAny bypasses all visibility checking.
I forgot to answer your question about what these mean. See
src/backend/utils/time/tqual.c for the gory details, but if you
are willing to accept the summary comments in that file:
Any No visibility check whatever
Self Other committed xacts + effects of this xact up to
*and including* current command
Now Other committed xacts + effects of this xact up to
*but not including* current command
Dirty like Self, but can see effects of other in-progress
xacts too
Snapshot like Now, but specified other xacts are considered
uncommitted even if they've actually committed by now
There are also special visibility rules for Update and Vacuum, which
are not really different from the normal rules, they just return more
information than "visible" or "not visible". (Dirty returns some
side information too.)
Hmm. Now that I look at it, Self probably isn't quite right either;
if we are reading a main-table tuple that's committed dead but is
still visible according to our snapshot, we need to be able to see
its toast tuples too; but they're committed dead as well. Sigh.
I think we need a special visibility rule for TOAST, that only
checks for HEAP_MOVED_IN/HEAP_MOVED_OFF (the bits that take care
of VACUUM moves).
Comments?
regards, tom lane
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