From: | Simon Riggs <simon(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com> |
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To: | Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us> |
Cc: | pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org |
Subject: | Re: statement_cost_limit |
Date: | 2006-03-01 17:37:45 |
Message-ID: | 1141234665.27729.405.camel@localhost.localdomain |
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On Wed, 2006-03-01 at 11:47 -0500, Tom Lane wrote:
> Simon Riggs <simon(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com> writes:
> > A new parameter that allows the administrator to place sensible limits
> > on the size of queries executed.
>
> As I said when the idea was floated originally, I don't think this is a
> very good idea at all. The planner's estimates are sufficiently often
> wrong that refusing to execute queries on the strength of an estimated
> cost is going to burn you in both directions.
That depends upon your view on risk. Some admins would rather abort a
few queries wrongly in less than a second than risk having a query run
for hours before being cancelled by statement_timeout. Most end-users
would agree with this, because if the answer is No they want to hear it
quickly so they can correct their mistake and continue.
But I think the estimates aren't sufficiently wrong to make a big
difference. People with a 100GB+ table can set it with sufficiently
useful accuracy to avoid pointless attempts to sort that table, for
example.
> Even if it were a good idea, the proposed location of the test is 100%
> wrong, as you are only guarding one path of query submission. Or were
> you intending that the restriction be trivial to subvert?
The main idea was to guard the path by which ad-hoc queries would come,
but you might want to set it on a dev server also for example.
Its a discussion point as to whether we'd want it the way I've coded, or
whether you want to block other routes also. I can see things both ways
on that and have no problem changing the behaviour if that is the
consensus; that change would be fairly quick.
Best Regards, Simon Riggs
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