From: | Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us> |
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To: | Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com> |
Cc: | Albe Laurenz <laurenz(dot)albe(at)wien(dot)gv(dot)at>, "pgsql-hackers(at)postgreSQL(dot)org" <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org> |
Subject: | Re: Default connection parameters for postgres_fdw and dblink |
Date: | 2013-03-27 14:47:46 |
Message-ID: | 11357.1364395666@sss.pgh.pa.us |
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Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com> writes:
> On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 10:20 AM, Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us> wrote:
>> It's arguable that we should unsetenv all of these inside the postmaster
>> (once it's absorbed the values from the ones it historically pays
>> attention to), so that the postmaster environment does not impinge on
>> the behavior of libpq inside a server process. This would cause a
>> non-backwards-compatible change in the behavior of dblink, though.
>> Are we okay with that?
> I feel like unsetting all of these (or whatever the canonical list is)
> in the postmaster is a bit like trying to bail out the ocean with a
> bucket, but since a bucket appears to be the only instrument at hand,
> sure, why not?
> As far as breaking backward incompatibility goes, it doesn't strike me
> as likely that anyone is relying on the current behavior, but on the
> off chance that they are, do we have some other way for them to set
> defaults? What I'm worried about with the current behavior is that
> people will accidentally absorb behavior changes they don't want (or
> that are insecure). But if there's no other way to set defaults
> explicitly then you could we'd be ripping out a feature without
> providing a replacement, something I am loathe to do.
Use a service file maybe? But you can't have it both ways: either we
like the behavior of libpq absorbing defaults from the postmaster
environment, or we don't. You were just arguing this was a bug, and
now you're calling it a feature.
(I guess we could have a switch to control whether the environment gets
cleared, so that anybody who really needs the old behavior could still
get it. But ugh.)
regards, tom lane
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