Re: Measuring the Query Optimizer Effect: Turning off the QO?

From: Rob Sargent <robjsargent(at)gmail(dot)com>
To: Tom Mercha <mercha_t(at)hotmail(dot)com>
Cc: "pgsql-general(at)lists(dot)postgresql(dot)org" <pgsql-general(at)lists(dot)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: Measuring the Query Optimizer Effect: Turning off the QO?
Date: 2019-07-08 00:02:33
Message-ID: 10CEE386-C195-4864-AF30-7DEE90E9DFF3@gmail.com
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> On Jul 7, 2019, at 6:01 PM, Rob Sargent <robjsargent(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:
>
>
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>> On Jul 7, 2019, at 5:49 PM, Tom Mercha <mercha_t(at)hotmail(dot)com <mailto:mercha_t(at)hotmail(dot)com>> wrote:
>>
>> On 08/07/2019 01:46, Rob Sargent wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Jul 7, 2019, at 5:22 PM, Tom Mercha <mercha_t(at)hotmail(dot)com <mailto:mercha_t(at)hotmail(dot)com>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi All
>>>>
>>>> As we know, a query goes through number of stages before it is executed.
>>>> One of these stages is query optimization (QO).
>>>>
>>>> There are various parameters to try and influence optimizer decisions
>>>> and costs. But I wanted to measure the effect of such a stage by turning
>>>> it off completely and I can't find such a parameter which explicitly
>>>> does that. Then I could execute a query to get the effect of "QO active
>>>> and "QO inactive" and compare.
>>>>
>>>> Obviously, I know well what the results would generally look like but I
>>>> am just interested in measuring the differences for various types of
>>>> queries. I am also aware that this is a simple comparison - there are
>>>> https://gitlab.com/camplab/jpsgcs <https://gitlab.com/camplab/jpsgcs> interesting comparisons to perform with QO tweaks, but right now I
>>>> am interested in something basic.
>>>>
>>>> So how would one shut down QO? Or at least, obtaining the guarantee of
>>>> generating the worst plan possible, ideally without touching many
>>>> parameters?
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>> Tom
>>>
>>> Drop all indices?
>>>
>>
>> Sorry, maybe my question wasn't clear enough.
>>
>> A query can be rewritten in various ways by applying rules and costs of
>> relational algebra operators, as well as their parallelisation. I am
>> talking about turning off this query optimization, so I am already
>> assuming that indexes aren't present.
>
> Have you played with any of these settings?
>
> postgres=# select version();
> version
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> PostgreSQL 10.7 on x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, compiled by gcc (GCC) 4.8.5 20150623 (Red Hat 4.8.5-36), 64-bit
> (1 row)
>
> postgres=# select name, setting, unit,short_desc from pg_settings where name ~ 'para';
> name | setting | unit | short_desc
> ---------------------------------+---------+------+----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> force_parallel_mode | off | | Forces use of parallel query facilities.
> max_parallel_workers | 16 | | Sets the maximum number of parallel workers that can be active at one time.
> max_parallel_workers_per_gather | 8 | | Sets the maximum number of parallel processes per executor node.
> min_parallel_index_scan_size | 64 | 8kB | Sets the minimum amount of index data for a parallel scan.
> min_parallel_table_scan_size | 1024 | 8kB | Sets the minimum amount of table data for a parallel scan.
> parallel_setup_cost | 1000 | | Sets the planner's estimate of the cost of starting up worker processes for parallel query.
> parallel_tuple_cost | 0.1 | | Sets the planner's estimate of the cost of passing each tuple (row) from worker to master backend.
> ssl_dh_params_file | | | Location of the SSL DH parameters file.
> (8 rows)
>
Well not the last one of course.

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