From: | Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us> |
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To: | Simon Riggs <simon(at)2ndQuadrant(dot)com> |
Cc: | Josh Berkus <josh(at)agliodbs(dot)com>, Greg Smith <greg(at)2ndQuadrant(dot)com>, Heikki Linnakangas <heikki(dot)linnakangas(at)enterprisedb(dot)com>, PostgreSQL-development <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org> |
Subject: | Re: pg_stop_backup does not complete |
Date: | 2010-02-25 00:08:18 |
Message-ID: | 10989.1267056498@sss.pgh.pa.us |
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Simon Riggs <simon(at)2ndQuadrant(dot)com> writes:
> On Wed, 2010-02-24 at 16:52 -0500, Tom Lane wrote:
>> * emit a NOTICE as soon as pg_stop_backup's actual work is done and
>> it's starting to wait for the archiver (or maybe after it's waited
>> for a few seconds, but much less than the present 60).
> Pointless really. Nobody runs backups in production by typing
> pg_stop_backup() except in a demo. Nobody will see this.
I agree it's pointless in production, but this isn't about production,
it's about friendliness to people who are experimenting. The case will
probably never come up in production because a production installation
should have a non-broken archive_command.
>> * extend the existing WARNING (and the NOTICE too if we elect to have
>> one) with a HINT message explicitly saying that you can cancel the
>> wait but thus-and-such consequences might ensue.
> If you can see the HINT, you can also see the WARNING. If you can see
> the WARNING and do nothing, I don't think we need a "objects in the
> mirror may be closer than they appear" message. If people can't work out
> that if a) they are running something and b) that something is waiting
> that they should cancel it then we aren't going to have much luck with
> them.
The value of the HINT I think would be to make them (a) not afraid to
hit control-C and (b) aware of the fact that their archiver has got
a problem.
regards, tom lane
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