Re: [pgsql-advocacy] Increased company involvement

From: Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>
To: "Marc G(dot) Fournier" <scrappy(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Cc: Bruce Momjian <pgman(at)candle(dot)pha(dot)pa(dot)us>, "Joshua D(dot) Drake" <jd(at)commandprompt(dot)com>, PostgreSQL-development <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: [pgsql-advocacy] Increased company involvement
Date: 2005-05-02 19:12:59
Message-ID: 1096.1115061179@sss.pgh.pa.us
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"Marc G. Fournier" <scrappy(at)postgresql(dot)org> writes:
> On Mon, 2 May 2005, Bruce Momjian wrote:
>> Marc G. Fournier wrote:
>>> Then what is the point of having it in CVS? Other then to make are tar
>>> ball bigger?
>>
>> So it can be maintained with other PL languages as the internal API
>> changes. This is the same reason ecpg is in our CVS because it is tied
>> to the grammar.

> Since when? I thought you didn't need the PostgreSQL sources in order to
> compile pl/PHP, only the installed headers/libraries ... Joshua, has
> something changed, or did I mis-understand that requirement?

That could be said of *any* of our PLs (at least now that we install all
server-side headers by default ;-)). I think the real reason we keep
pltcl etc in the core CVS is exactly what Bruce said: it's easier to
maintain 'em that way. The problem is that the PLs use all sorts of
internal backend APIs that we don't want to freeze, and so they are
constantly being affected by changes in the core backend. Just look
at the CVS logs for evidence.

Personally, I'm willing to fix the PLs whenever I make a change that
affects them, but only if they're in core CVS. Dealing with parallel
changes in two different code repositories is too much of a pain.
So the folks maintaining non-core PLs take a big hit every release when
they have to sync with what's happened in the core backend meanwhile.

regards, tom lane

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