Re: JDBC delete not recovering space?

From: Dave Cramer <Dave(at)micro-automation(dot)net>
To: John Guthrie <jguthrie(at)psynapsetech(dot)net>
Cc: "pgsql-jdbc(at)postgresql(dot)org" <pgsql-jdbc(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: JDBC delete not recovering space?
Date: 2003-04-23 15:54:40
Message-ID: 1051113280.1056.205.camel@inspiron.cramers
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What version of postres are you running, if it is 7.3.x only vacuum full
will recover space

Dave
On Wed, 2003-04-23 at 11:45, John Guthrie wrote:
> i am seeing some odd behavior and wonder if anyone can help me explain it
> and fix it...
>
> i've written a java task that runs in a thread and monitors disk space on
> the partition where i have my $PGDATA. if the space available drops below a
> certain level, i remove some old records ... and vacuum.
>
> the odd thing is that running via jdbc the space seems to not be recovered.
> example - if i start with 100,000 records of approximately 1K size and i
> remove 50,000, using 'df' in another shell i see no space recovery. from
> another shell, using psql, i run vacuum and again i see no gains.
>
> the really odd thing is that if i do this whole scenario in psql - create
> 100,000, delete the oldest 50,000, and vacuum - i *do* see the space
> recovered.
>
> even better (or worse), if i do the whole test in java, verify that little
> or no space is recovered, then run psql and delete a single records and
> vacuum, bam(!) i get a boatload of space back.
>
> note that in the java task i explicitly set auto-commit to true and i run
> queries from psql that show results that reflect the deletions, so i don't
> see this as a transaction problem. also, if i shut down postgresql i see the
> correct (reduced) record count but still no space recovery. i can restart
> it, run psql, and vacuum, but still no space recovery... but if i then
> delete a record and vacuum again, i get space, lots of space (i.e.
> megabytes).
>
> any ideas anyone? thanks
>
> john
>
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> psynapse technologies
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