Re: Many comments (related to "Are we losing momentum?")

From: Robert Treat <xzilla(at)users(dot)sourceforge(dot)net>
To: Dave Page <dpage(at)vale-housing(dot)co(dot)uk>
Cc: Rob Butler <robert(dot)butler5(at)verizon(dot)net>, pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org
Subject: Re: Many comments (related to "Are we losing momentum?")
Date: 2003-04-16 16:21:55
Message-ID: 1050510115.12855.1344.camel@camel
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On Wed, 2003-04-16 at 11:51, Dave Page wrote:
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Rob Butler [mailto:robert(dot)butler5(at)verizon(dot)net]
> > Sent: 16 April 2003 16:33
> > To: pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org
> > Subject: [HACKERS] Many comments (related to "Are we losing
> > momentum?")
> >
> >
> > You
> > want a real shocker... Visit the gborg homepage (click the
> > gborg link on the bottom left corner of the postgres site).
> > Then read the news on the right side of the gborg homepage.
> > See that url for http://www.greatbridge.org/ in the
> > GreatBridge.Org Version 2.0.0 Release story from way back in
> > 2001! Go ahead, visit that URL. What's the first thing you
> > see on that page? "Purchase IBM DB2 At IBM.com". Come on!
> > Not even a mention of Postgres, and this is right on the
> > gborg homepage!
>
> We don't own that site, and we never did. We did manage to inherit the
> projects database through it's key programmer and his goodwill.
>

Oddly I don't see the link he's referring to, but I've always thought it
unfortunate that the postgresql community didn't hold onto those domain
names. I was just speaking with a tech writer last night who mentioned
how the company that was initially behind postgresql went kaput ("I
think it was called great river or something?") Took me a minute to set
him straight on that.

Anyways, I've offered to look into setting up gforge services in the
past as it's a mature project with a good development community and the
founder (Tim Perdue) has always been friendly with the PostgreSQL
community. Course I don't see this as an immediate need, but long term I
think it would be a good idea.

> > The firebird, sapdb and mysql sites are
> > killing postgres here. The postgres homepage and related
> > links is the first thing someone new to postgres sees! There
> > shouldn't be news on any of the main pages from back in 2001.
>
> There isn't. The oldest news is from January 2003.
>
> Wrt your comments on the style of some of the pages linked off the main
> site (the archives spring to mind), if there are any volunteers to help
> fix that, please raise your hands because my time is limited and I could
> do with some committed help on that sort of thing.
>

I'm in the process of adding the newsletters to the main page (expect
questions your way later today ;-) but once I am done with that
"cohesiveness" will definitely be on my radar screen.

Robert Treat

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