Re: OT: This list is Razored

On Thu, 2003-02-06 at 15:47, greg(at)mail(dot)netio(dot)org wrote:
> The problem is all the people that were subscribed to this list and now
> can't get off!!!!!!!
>
> I'm in that list. I'm about to take similar actions.
>
> And don't tell me to go check the web site, or use X commands, I've DONE
> IT. I've also contacted people that appear to run the list, NO REPLY. Are
> you a list maintainer???? If so, then you can do the list a great service
> by getting those that want off OFF the list!!!
>
> In my case, I have several email addresses, some old ones too, that all
> come into a single account. The headers sent by the list do not include
> the actual address that the messages are sent to. This means that the
> message is in my inbox, AND the headers tell me no information about what
> address is subscribed. I don't know what address is supplied. I've tried
> to unsubscribe the most likely addresses, but majordomo says they are not
> subscribed.
>

You really haven't tried very hard have you? Looking at the email
headers from anything in any of the pgsql mailing lists will show this
header:

Received: from postgresql.org (postgresql.org [64.49.215.8]) by
relay2.pgsql.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 628EDEE14D8 for
<YOUR EMAIL ADDRESS HERE>; Thu, 6 Feb 2003 13:32:36 -0500 (EST)

Total time to find the subscribed email address in the headers: 10
seconds. Therefore, I propose that you are one or more of the following:

1. A Moron
2. Ignorant
3. American (note: this isn't intended as a slight against Americans,
its just that a lot of media coverage of them here in Aus shows them as
always trying to blame others for their problems).

Now, take this email address, and go read the web page.

> So, if someone else is in the same position, then why shouldn't they
> blacklist this? HMM??? Seems reasonable. And if enough people get annoyed
> perhaps then someone will do something and get those that want off OFF!
>

This is clearly abuse of the Razor system, is damaging to the PostgreSQL
community, and increases the load on the Razor servers. Theres nothing
to stop you directing mails to /dev/null if you really don't want them,
or even just bouncing them (In fact, a bounce is the best way to handle
it, as many mailing list packages will keep bounces aside and
unsubscribe them if they bounce again).

I would suggest that you take your "poor little me, I'm all lost and
confused" attitude and try and help yourself, perhaps by doing some of
the things you have said you've done.

--
Alastair D'Silva <deece(at)newmillennium(dot)net(dot)au>
New Millennium Networking