Re: tsearch comments

Oleg,

We actually have several somewhat similar tables (A, B, C, D, E...) that
have some textual/varchar content. Thus we make a search table Z that
concatenates the textual info from the first tables. Sure, we could
probably use unions and such the like, but performance reasons prohibit
that scenario :-)

Its much better to search the search table, then show the relevant data
from the source tables based on ranked results.

- Ericson Smith

On Wed, 2003-01-29 at 03:37, Oleg Bartunov wrote:
> On 28 Jan 2003, eric(at)did-it(dot)com wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > I guess what we're looking for is something on the order (as much as I
> > hate using it as a reference) of MySQL's full text search which does
> > offer some ranking.
> >
> > Just putting ranking alone in tsearch would be a huge benefit. Users can
> > then decide in their own language how to display results, especially
> > since those results may not necessarily require titles or description
> > fragments.
> >
> > For example, we have several huge tables that have the following
> > columns:
> >
> > > id
> > > tbltype
> > > title
> > > description
> >
> > Basically, our customer will lookup words that are contained in title
> > and description, so we make an additional table like:
> >
> > > id
> > > tblid (id of the source table)
> > > tblsource (which table)
> > > content (txtidx)
> >
> > Then we can use tsearch to search the second table (we do now), and once
> > we retrieve the id's that we want, we can display results from one or
> > more source tables. Just putting in ranking in tsearch would solve all
> > these problems.
>
> Hmm, people used to concatenation to get the same result. Do you really
> need that table ? Your problem doesn't relate to ranking of results.
>
> We could add some ranking support based on local (per-document) statistics.
> Keeping global statistics, for example, TFxIDF, would complicate tsearch
> and maintaining of indices. Proximity ranking as in OpenFTS require
> more options in tsearch configuration. Let us think about ranking later
> after we implement friendly interface.
>
> >
> > - Ericson Smith
> > http://www.did-it.com
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> >
> >
> > On Tue, 2003-01-28 at 14:00, Oleg Bartunov wrote:
> > > On Tue, 28 Jan 2003, Uros Gruber wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi!
> > > >
> > > > I think that this would be nice. OpenFTS is great, but i would
> > > > be great if this would be implement in real pg functions.
> > > >
> > > > I think that indexim would be great if pg make it by itself.
> > > >
> > > > Also it could be great if we could define order of weight of
> > > > columns.
> > >
> > > Could you elaborate this ?
> > >
> > > >
> > > > bye Uros
> > > >
> > > > I
> > > > On 28.01.2003 at 11:53:26, Oleg Bartunov <oleg(at)sai(dot)msu(dot)su>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > On Tue, 28 Jan 2003 sector119(at)mail(dot)ru wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > HI
> > > > > >
> > > > > > will we see sort by relevance at tsearch alpha version? :)
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > not sure. We concentrate our efforts, well, Teodor is working
> > > > > on
> > > > > better configurability of tsearch like OpenFTS does.
> > > > >
> > > > > It\\\'s not difficult to add rather naive relevance based on
> > > > > position
> > > > > of lexem in document, for example. The question is do you
> > > > like
> > > > > such
> > > > > kind of relevancy ? Real ranking support (as in OpenFTS)
> > > > > require
> > > > > separate tables to maintain coordinate information.
> > > > > We want to keep tsearch as simple as it\\\'s and now we just
> > > > add
> > > > > better and friendly configurability. Do we need complicate
> > > > > tsearch ?
> > > > > We already have OpenFTS which has most features people
> > > > > requested.
> > > > >
> > > >
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> > > Regards,
> > > Oleg
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> Oleg
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