Re: Swing and JDBC

Dennis, Robert,

have a look at www.ambysoft.com for a paper on persistence layers, with
a persistence layer your objects don't know anything about the db(s)

Dave
On Tue, 2002-08-13 at 10:51, Dennis R. Gesker wrote:
> Robert,
>
> I am moving slowly but sure I'm more than willing to share anything I
> come accross. There does seem to be a consensus in the list regarding
> using a middle teir as opposed to mixing the JDBC and Swing code
> directly at the client. I was planning on continuing to use JSP pages to
> provide all or the reporting so perhaps I can just point my existing
> pages at this same middle tier.
>
> There seems to be a number of choices for this middle teir. This teir
> might also have mechanisms for addressing some of the issues you raise.
> I'll probably begin researching some of these same issues this week. I
> wonder if my question now become what is the best way to construct this
> middle teir.
>
> Let me know I'll send you my config files.If you decide to use JSP pages
> for reporting also I can probably also help you getting Tomcat to play
> nice with Apache. Also, much of the information that will be kept in
> postgres is data that I pull from our Accounting system (MS-SQL based
> application) so I also have some classes built for pulling records and
> getting them ready for postgres.
>
> --Dennis
>
> Booth, Robert wrote:
>
> >Dennis,
> >
> > I'm currently in the same position that you are. I'm planning, if
> >the company lets me, to rewrite an Access application in Java with Postgres
> >as the backend. I recently ported the data from Access to Postgres but left
> >the client as Access due to time constraints. Now I'm looking into
> >re-designing the whole thing from the ground up and Java/Swing is my current
> >choice of client, and of course Postgres as the DB.
> >
> > Anyway I've been looking for the same thing you are. My main
> >stumbling block is that I've not found any information on the correct way to
> >handle concurrent usage. What is the proper/best way to handle 2 users
> >editing the same record at the same time? Should locks be implemented
> >forcing 1 user to wait until the other is done editing, or should a write
> >conflict message be displayed when the second edit is processed and the
> >original record is found to have changed? Also how should one go about
> >checking for a record change given if you aren't using locks? And how
> >should the system be designed, is using "data objects" (objects that only
> >deal with 1 type of record set) a good or bad idea? What should be the
> >proper way to populate and show your data to the user? Should the user be
> >required to ask for there data to be refreshed, or should this be automatic?
> >
> > These are the types of questions that have been running around in my
> >mind with no answers forthcoming. So I'm thinking that maybe we could help
> >each other out since we are heading down the same path. The only things
> >I've found so far are database browsers like SquirrelSQL
> >(http://squirrel-sql.sourceforge.net/) and I don't think these address the
> >issues that I'm concerned with, and you are probably in the same boat.
> >
> >Rob
> >
> >
> >
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: Dennis R. Gesker [mailto:dennis(at)gesker(dot)com]
> >>Sent: Monday, August 12, 2002 3:17 PM
> >>To: psql
> >>Subject: [JDBC] Swing and JDBC
> >>
> >>
> >>Could someone on this list point me toward a simple but illustrative
> >>application built in Swing that uses JDBC (perferrably Postgres JDBC).
> >>
> >>I've been using the JDBC driver on Apache/Tomcat/Linux to
> >>generate web
> >>reports reading records from postgres and it has been working great.
> >>
> >>Now I'm considering reworking our database applications (currently in
> >>MS-Access) using Java but I'm looking for a small application
> >>that uses
> >>Swing & JDBC that can give me an idea of the best practices
> >>using these
> >>2 different parts of the API together. I of course intend to use
> >>Postgres for the back end but I think that the Java would be
> >>the way to
> >>go for the front end.
> >>
> >>I've found alot of examples for either Swing or JDBC sepearately but
> >>none showing them together and working efficiently. I expect my
> >>application will have to support about 20 concurrent users but the
> >>structure of the database tables will only require a few
> >>tables and some
> >>relatively simple relationships.
> >>
> >>Sorry in advance if this is too far off topic but I always
> >>seem to get
> >>really good answers from the folks who monitor this group and figured
> >>that someone could point me in the right direction.
> >>
> >>Dennis
> >>
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