From: | Hannu Krosing <hannu(at)tm(dot)ee> |
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To: | josh(at)agliodbs(dot)com |
Cc: | Bruce Momjian <pgman(at)candle(dot)pha(dot)pa(dot)us>, Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>, pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org |
Subject: | Re: Democracy and organisation : let's make a |
Date: | 2002-06-25 17:37:49 |
Message-ID: | 1025026671.2189.43.camel@rh72.home.ee |
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On Tue, 2002-06-25 at 22:48, Josh Berkus wrote:
>
> Bruce,
>
> > I think Oracle is our main competitor. We seem to get more people
> > porting from Oracle than any other database, and our feature set matches
> > there's most closely.
>
> I disagree, and did as well when you were with Great Bridge. No matter how
> Postgres core functionality compares with Oracle, they have nearly a decade
> of building tools, accessories, and extra whiz-bang features for their
> product.
My (perhaps a little outdated) experience has been that with Oracle
almost anything on the client side sucks bad.
What they have is a solid database and good upward path to really big
iron.
> Not to mention a serious reputation as the "ultimate database if
> you can afford it."
On PC server class computers we seem to be able to match them with one
exception - prepared statements with good(?) binary fe/be protocol ?
> As long as we target Oracle as our "competition", we will remain "the database
> to use if you can't afford Oracle, but to be replaced with Oracle as soon as
> you can." Heck, look at DB2, which is toe-to-toe with Oracle for feature
> set, but is only really sold to companies who use IBM's other tools. We're
> not in a position to challenge that reputation.
But if we are seen as challenging it, it is a good marketing point when
selling to MS SQL folks :)
> On the other hand, we already outstrip MS SQL Server's feature set, as well as
> being more reliable, lower-maintainence, multi-platform, and cheaper.
If only someone were to write Transact SQL lookalike and even better -
if we had pluggable frontend protocols - FreeTDS compatibility on server
side would be a big step even without native Win32.
> Frankly, the only thing that MS SQL has over us is easy-but-unreliable GUI
> admin tools (backup, user, and database management).
We almost have it in pgAdmin and Tora.
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Hannu
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