From: | Marc Munro <marc(at)bloodnok(dot)com> |
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To: | Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us> |
Cc: | pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org |
Subject: | Re: point in time recovery and moving datafiles online |
Date: | 2002-02-22 17:03:57 |
Message-ID: | 1014397437.15016.3.camel@bloodnok.com |
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Tom,
Again, many thanks for the reply.
On Thu, 2002-02-21 at 21:27, Tom Lane wrote:
>
> No, you're missing my point. You don't need intra-file consistency any
> more than you need cross-file consistency. You merely need to be sure
> that you have captured all the state of pages that are not updated
> anywhere in the series of WAL entries that you have.
>
> I had originally started to compose email suggesting that locking on a
> per-disk-page basis (not a per-file basis) would be better, but I do
> not believe you need even that, for two reasons:
>
> 1. PG will always write changes to data files in page-size write
> operations. The Unix kernel guarantees that these writes appear atomic
> from the point of view of other processes. So the data-file-backup
> process will see pagewise consistent data in any case.
>
> 2. Even if the backup process managed to acquire an inconsistent
> (partially updated) copy of a page due to a concurrent write by a
> Postgres backend, we do not care. The WAL activity is designed to
> ensure recovery from partial-page disk writes, and backing up such an
> inconsistent page copy would be isomorphic to a system failure after a
> partial page write. Replay of the WAL will ensure that the page will be
> fully written from the WAL data.
Wow. I hadn't appreciated that. This is way cooler than I realised.
> In short, all you need is a mechanism for archiving off the WAL data and
> locating a checkpoint record in the WAL as a starting point for replay.
> Your data-file backup mechanism can be plain ol' tar or cp -r. No
> interlocks needed or wanted.
So, the whole job is much easier than I thought. This is a good thing.
I will rethink my strategy. It looks like the tasks now are to manage
the archival of WAL files, provide an interface to manage the recovery
process, produce some guidelines/scripts for managing hot backups, and
write the documentation.
--
Marc marc(at)bloodnok(dot)com
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