Re: Clarify planner_hook calling convention

From: "Andrey V(dot) Lepikhov" <a(dot)lepikhov(at)postgrespro(dot)ru>
To: Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>
Cc: PostgreSQL-Dev <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: Clarify planner_hook calling convention
Date: 2022-01-04 10:44:53
Message-ID: 058b1a43-6370-69bb-882a-bab363935fe0@postgrespro.ru
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On 1/3/22 8:59 PM, Tom Lane wrote:
> "Andrey V. Lepikhov" <a(dot)lepikhov(at)postgrespro(dot)ru> writes:
>> planner hook is frequently used in monitoring and advising extensions.
>
> Yeah.
>
>> The call to this hook is implemented in the way, that the
>> standard_planner routine must be called at least once in the hook's call
>> chain.
>> But, as I see in [1], it should allow us "... replace the planner
>> altogether".
>> In such situation it haven't sense to call standard_planner at all.
>
> That's possible in theory, but who's going to do it in practice?

We use it in an extension that freezes a plan for specific parameterized
query (using plancache + shared storage) - exactly the same technique as
extended query protocol does, but spreading across all backends.
As I know, the community doesn't like such features, and we use it in
enterprise code only.

>> But, maybe more simple solution is to describe requirements to such kind
>> of extensions in the code and documentation (See patch in attachment)?
>> + * 2. If your extension implements some planning activity, write in the extension
>> + * docs a requirement to set the extension at the begining of shared libraries list.
>
> This advice seems pretty unhelpful. If more than one extension is
> getting into the planner_hook, they can't all be first.

I want to check planner_hook on startup and log an error if it isn't
NULL and give a user an advice how to fix it. I want to legalize this
logic, if permissible.

>
> (Also, largely the same issue applies to very many of our other
> hooks.)

Agreed. Interference between extensions is a very annoying issue now.

--
regards,
Andrey Lepikhov
Postgres Professional

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