| From: | Jeff Davis <pgsql(at)j-davis(dot)com> | 
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| To: | Taylor Vesely <tvesely(at)pivotal(dot)io>, Tomas Vondra <tomas(dot)vondra(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com> | 
| Cc: | Adam Lee <ali(at)pivotal(dot)io>, Melanie Plageman <mplageman(at)pivotal(dot)io>, pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org | 
| Subject: | Re: Memory-Bounded Hash Aggregation | 
| Date: | 2019-08-30 06:28:12 | 
| Message-ID: | 038966b0ba9d7e0445d15d09908ac82202c55a30.camel@j-davis.com | 
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On Wed, 2019-08-28 at 12:52 -0700, Taylor Vesely wrote:
> I started to review this patch yesterday with Melanie Plageman, so we
> rebased this patch over the current master. The main conflicts were
> due to a simplehash patch that has been committed separately[1]. I've
> attached the rebased patch.
Great, thanks!
> I was playing with the code, and if one of the table's most common
> values isn't placed into the initial hash table it spills a whole lot
> of tuples to disk that might have been avoided if we had some way to
> 'seed' the hash table with MCVs from the statistics. Seems to me that
> you would need some way of dealing with values that are in the MCV
> list, but ultimately don't show up in the scan. I imagine that this
> kind of optimization would most useful for aggregates on a full table
> scan.
Interesting idea, I didn't think of that.
> Some questions:
> 
> Right now the patch always initializes 32 spill partitions. Have you
> given
> any thought into how to intelligently pick an optimal number of
> partitions yet?
Yes. The idea is to guess how many groups are remaining, then guess how
much space they will need in memory, then divide by work_mem. I just
didn't get around to it yet. (Same with the costing work.)
> By add-on approach, do you mean to say that you have something in
> mind
> to combine the two strategies? Or do you mean that it could be
> implemented
> as a separate strategy?
It would be an extension of the existing patch, but would add a fair
amount of complexity (dealing with partial states, etc.) and the
benefit would be fairly modest. We can do it later if justified.
> That said, I think it's worth mentioning that with parallel
> aggregates
> it might actually be more useful to spill the trans values instead,
> and have them combined in a Gather or Finalize stage.
That's a good point.
Regards,
	Jeff Davis
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