Re: Frontend/Backend protocol 3.0

From: "Sivakumar K" <sivakumark(at)pervasive-postgres(dot)com>
To: <pgman(at)candle(dot)pha(dot)pa(dot)us>, <fuerth(at)sqlpower(dot)ca>
Cc: <jd(at)commandprompt(dot)com>, <pgsql-odbc(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: Frontend/Backend protocol 3.0
Date: 2005-06-07 05:49:12
Message-ID: 02767D4600E59A4487233B23AEF5C5991F0165@blrmail1.aus.pervasive.com
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Hi all,

We, at Pervasive, are working in making the ODBC driver use the libPQ
API
while retaining the socket connection too (using a compile time flag).
We
are planning to provide a lump-sum update on this task since it does not
make sense for incremental updates. We are also doing bug-fixing and
closing
open bugs (where we can) in the drivers which are provided as
incremental
updates. I will post an email on approach shortly.

Regards,
Siva Kumar.K

-----Original Message-----
From: pgsql-odbc-owner(at)postgresql(dot)org
[mailto:pgsql-odbc-owner(at)postgresql(dot)org] On Behalf Of Bruce Momjian
Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 5:05 AM
To: Jonathan Fuerth
Cc: Joshua D. Drake; pgsql-odbc(at)postgresql(dot)org
Subject: Re: [ODBC] Frontend/Backend protocol 3.0

Jonathan Fuerth wrote:
> On Jun 6, 2005, at 5:39 PM, Joshua D. Drake wrote:
> >>> I don't think I'm the only person who has been suffering from a
lack
> >>> of background knowledge in this regard.
> >> OK, who is working on improving ODBC at this point? Please give us
a
> >> status report.
> >
> > My understanding is that there are two ODBC Projects.
> >
> > 1. ODBCng which is the GPL Command Prompt venture
>
> This seems clear enough--a from-scratch, GPL/commercial licensed ODBC
> driver which doesn't use libpq and only works with PostgreSQL backend
> >=8.0. Command Prompt will host this separately from the existing
> psqlodbc project.
>
> > 2. ODBC which is the original LGPL version and is being worked on by

> > Pervasive.
>
> I'm fuzzy on this one. Is pervasive just contributing incremental
> updates to the existing driver in the existing CVS repository, or will

> they post a lump-sum update to the driver one day, or will they fork
> the project and host their version on their own site?
>
> I can't find any evidence that they've publicly forked the project (or

> made any improvements to the odbc driver), but that doesn't mean they
> haven't been working on something in secret.
>
> Thanks for helping me discover these other projects. Now that we can
> get SQLSTATE from the backend, the driver works with our product
(which
> is not open source).
>
> The next step will be to optimise SQL INSERT and UPDATE performance,
> and the most obvious place to start is with the new bind/execute part
> of the v3 backend protocol. I'm trying to decide if it's worth
> implementing on top of our current patched driver, or if I should just

> wait for Pervasive or Command Prompt to do it.

I am fuzzy on what Pervasive is doing and hope they will jump into this
discussion.

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