Re: Java GUI development

Dave, Bear,

I would really like you guys to look at http://www.melati.org/
as we have been round the houses with all these issues.

cheers
timp

On Wednesday 05 June 2002 19:32, Dave Cramer wrote:
> Bear,
>
> I had sort of been thinking about not using the JDBC API for this, but
> you make a good point of it being a reference application for JDBC. I
> did intend to use the driver code, but more of the lowlevel stuff for
> speed reasons. One of the problems the driver has is that it fetches the
> entire query before returning which could be problematic. I kind of like
> the idea of some sort of cache for the query if it is large. Something
> along the idea of a lazy load, where we would initially return the first
> couple of pages, and then if the user scrolled down we would fetch
> another couple of pages. If it were "really smart" it would only keep a
> window of information in memory. That being said this may be an
> opportunity to make the driver better too!
>
> RE JSP tags: I personally favour templating tools like velocity, or
> webmacro over jsp, but that's my personal taste (you can read the
> arguments on www.servlets.com and form your own opinions). I do however
> see the possiblity of writing the code so that it could be either a web
> application, or a GUI application. I think that is a real attainable
> goal using java.
>
> Notionally the idea would be as follows:
>
> The database is more or less object oriented as it is, ie pg_tables,
> pg_trigger, pg_index, etc. can all be easily modelled as objects. So the
> entire structure of the db can be loaded and accessed, by either the
> gui, jsp, or templating code.
>
> Thoughts?
>
> Dave
>
> On Wed, 2002-06-05 at 15:15, Bear Giles wrote:
> > > Is there anyone interested in collaborating on a Java GUI.
> >
> > That's been on my 'possible projects' list, so I may be interested
> > in contributing. I've also been playing with some Tomcat JSP tags
> > that may be a good complement to this project. The goal of these
> > tags is to make it easy to write "am I sane?" views of the database -
> > basically a dump of each table, but with links so that you can easily
> > navigate between the tables.
> >
> > E.g., if table foo has a foreign reference to table bar, then each
> > row in foo should have a link that shows the corresponding entry in
> > bar. Contrawise, it would be nice if each row in bar had a link
> > that brought up all rows that accessed it. (Then there's those
> > graphing applets that could show relationships between tables, and....
> > okay, I'll stop drooling now.)
> >
> > JSP may be a good prototype tool for a standalone application.
> > It allows formatting to be quickly changed, so people can try out
> > different approaches, and the "input" could be handled by JSP
> > that catches forms.
> >
> > > I am fairly
> > > confident I could handle the low end server interface to the tables,
> > > but am looking for someone with swing skills
> >
> > I think one of the desireable goals of this type of project is as
> > a demonstration of how to access the database through Java, and
> > thus the project should use JDBC unless something entirely outside
> > of its interface is required. This also helps make the application
> > thin and fast, since it's not doing much beyond constructing JDBC
> > queries and formatting the results.
> >
> > Bear
> >
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