Re: 7.0.2 -> 7.0.3 problem - anyone?

I think I might have explained this wrong..

Ok, both databases had a BLCKSZ of 32k before the upgrade (in 7.0.2), one
database that I upgraded first to 7.0.3 went flawlessly, it started, I can
do every operation fine and it's BLCKSZ is 32k (so the BLCKSZ never changed
between the installs, it is exactly as it was before).. I used the exact
same procedure for my production database and it doesn't start..

If I have to dump and reload in this situation, that's fine.. You absolutely
know more than I do about PostgreSQL but I know what I did on the
development machine and it didn't have these problems -- that's why I didn't
think any dump and/or reload was needed...

When I went back to 7.0.2, I shouldn't have had to dump and restore, should
I? I never did an initdb on the 7.0.3 installation so the data (and
virtually everything else as far as data is concerned was the same as when I
was running 7.0.2

Knowing all the above, do you still think a dump and reload was required? If
so that's fine, I just need to know..

-Mitch

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bruce Momjian" <pgman(at)candle(dot)pha(dot)pa(dot)us>
To: "Mitch Vincent" <mitch(at)venux(dot)net>
Cc: <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>; <pgsql-general(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2000 6:34 PM
Subject: Re: [HACKERS] 7.0.2 -> 7.0.3 problem - anyone?

> Block size can not be changes without dump/reload. If you think it
> worked once, you are wrong. Sorry. The page headers have to be written
> at the start of every block.
>
>
> [ Charset ISO-8859-1 unsupported, converting... ]
> > I realize it's Sunday night and not many people will be checking their
> > email, however I must ask one final time before I take some drastic
measures
> > (erasing the data directory and initdb 'ing, then restoring the data
from
> > last night's backup, losing an entire day's worth of data) -- does
anyone
> > have any ideas on how I might be able to fix the problems outlined
below?
> >
> > I'm nearly positive that I shouldn't have had to dump/restore or initdb
> > again, since I made the same changes on another machine with the same
> > databases, data and BLCKSZ (an upgrade to 7.0.3 without an initdb or
> > anything), which went flawlessly.
> >
> > Thanks to anyone who could even offer a guess, I've guessed all I can
and
> > none of my guesses have paid off.. BTW, one might be lead to believe
that
> > this is a permission problem, it's not, I'm positive of that. The same
user
> > was accessing the same file seconds before I upgraded, that and the fact
> > that I changed permissions to 777 all the way down the tree to make
sure..
> >
> > -Mitch
> >
> > > You have to dump/initdb/reload if you change the block size. Simply
> > > recompiling is not going to work.
> > >
> > > Cheers...
> > >
> > >
> > > MikeA
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Mitch Vincent
> > > To: pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org
> > > Sent: 11-13-00 12:57 AM
> > > Subject: [HACKERS] 7.0.2 -> 7.0.3 problem
> > >
> > > I just upgraded to 7.0.3 and tried to start the backend like
> > >
> > > /usr/local/pgsql/bin/postmaster -B 256 -o '-S 10240 -s' -D
> > > /usr/local/pgsql/data -i > /usr/local/pgsql/postgres.log 2>&1 &
> > >
> > > .. as I've done with 7.0.2, it failed to start and got this in my
> > > postgresql.log :
> > >
> > > DEBUG: Data Base System is starting up at Sun Nov 12 18:20:04 2000
> > > FATAL 2: Read("/usr/local/pgsql/data/pg_control") failed: 2
> > > FATAL 2: Read("/usr/local/pgsql/data/pg_control") failed: 2
> > > Startup failed - abort
> > >
> > > The only compilation change I made was to increase BLCKSZ to 32k
(which
> > > has
> > > been running in a production 7.0.2 environment for quite some time).
> > >
> > > So what's up? Just to make sure I made the permissions 777 all the way
> > > down
> > > to pg_control but it had no effect.
> > >
> > > ----
> > >
> > > Hmm, I just re-installed 7.0.2 and I get the same error with it -- not
> > > good.
> > >
> > > My development server, which is virtually the same, did fine when I
> > > installed 7.0.3 so I'm guessing it's not a problem across the board..
> > >
> > > I also notice in the log that it's
> > > Read("/usr/local/pgsql/data/pg_control")
> > > that's failing and when I move pg_control out of the way, it's Open()
> > > that
> > > fails..
> > >
> > > I did nothing but stop the postmaster, compile and install 7.0.3 and
> > > start
> > > the postmaster. then compiled and installed 7.0.2 again and all of the
> > > sudden the 7.0.2 or 7.0.3 backend doesn't start -- it makes no sense.
> > >
> > > As always, any help is appreciated. Thanks!
> > >
> > > -Mitch
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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