Re: [pgpool-general: 5318] Why pgpool TPS is lowest versus postgresql direct connections?

From: "Lazaro Garcia" <lazaro3487(at)gmail(dot)com>
To: "'David Sisk -X \(dsisk - TEKSYSTEMS INC at Cisco\)'" <dsisk(at)cisco(dot)com>, <pgpool-general(at)pgpool(dot)net>, <pgsql-admin(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: [pgpool-general: 5318] Why pgpool TPS is lowest versus postgresql direct connections?
Date: 2017-02-10 15:14:20
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Thank you very much for your explanation.

The num_init_children configuration parameter is bigger than concurrent
users used in the test.

Attached is the results of the test, as you can see with pgbench directly,
the TPS amount are almost double.

The test was performed over two virtual machines with 4 processors and 2 GB
of RAM each one.

Pgbech was executed from other machine.

Ubuntu Server 16.04, PostgreSQL 9.6.1, Pgpool-3.5.5.

Is there any way to increase the pgpool results?

Regards.

De: David Sisk -X (dsisk - TEKSYSTEMS INC at Cisco) [mailto:dsisk(at)cisco(dot)com]

Enviado el: viernes, 10 de febrero de 2017 04:58 p. m.
Para: Lazaro Garcia; pgpool-general(at)pgpool(dot)net; pgsql-admin(at)postgresql(dot)org
Asunto: RE: [pgpool-general: 5318] Why pgpool TPS is lowest versus
postgresql direct connections?

My immediate thought would be this: PGPool is much slower with a larger
number of concurrent users because some of the connections are being queued
by PGPool. Take a look at your num_init_children parameter…unlike most
connection pooling layers, PGPool doesn’t have separate config parameters
for the initial number of backend connections and the max number of backend
connections…num_init_children controls both. Increase num_init_children to
at least the number of concurrent connections plus a few, and re-try the
benchmark tests.

Also, the benefits of load balancing don’t tend to show up well with pgbench
or sysbench default benchmarks. PGPool imposes some overhead in determining
which queries can be load-balanced against a standby…with SELECT queries
that execute in only a few milliseconds, it might take PGPool longer to make
that decision than it would have to just send it straight to the primary.
So, you won’t see the load balancing benefits with SELECT queries that
execute in a few milliseconds, but when you send it SELECT queries that take
a few seconds or longer to execute you’ll start to see the benefits. You
could create a custom benchmark that has some high-reduction queries that
would take a few seconds to execute, then run the benchmarks with that…you
should then see scalability improvements from the load balancing.

Hope this helps,

David Sisk

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Subject: [pgpool-general: 5318] Why pgpool TPS is lowest versus postgresql
direct connections?

The correct results reported by sysbench was:

Concurrent Users

1

20

50

100

PostgreSQL

3582

11943

12852

10618

Pgpool

2240

7628

7013

6135

Is there any way to tuning this behavior?

Regards

De: Lazaro Garcia [mailto:lazaro3487(at)gmail(dot)com]
Enviado el: miércoles, 8 de febrero de 2017 05:28 p. m.
Para: 'pgpool-general(at)pgpool(dot)net'; 'pgsql-admin(at)postgresql(dot)org'
Asunto: Why pgpool TPS is lowest versus postgresql direct connections?

After installed Pgpool with 2 postgresql nodes with streaming replication, I
have noticed that access directly to postgresql is more efficient than
through pgpool.

I supposed that load balance could increase the transactions per second
executed because each node could receive more load, but the results shown
below are not expected.

This is the setup:

Pgpool 3.6.1 whit connection pooling, streaming replication mode and load
balancing mode.

2 PostgreSQL server 9.6.1 whit streaming replication.

For the tests I used sysbench and pgbench.

The results of sysbench:

Concurrent Users

1

20

50

100

PostgreSQL (TPS) Direct

1166

20936

25743

27344

Pgpool (TPS)

2240

7628

7013

6135

The results of pgbench


1

20

50

100

PostgreSQL (TPS) Direct

1403

6805

6194

5726

Pgpool (TPS)

511

5430

5528

4705

As you can see in both cases even with load balance, the total transactions
per second are lower.

Is this the expected behavior. Is there any way to allow more TPS when
pgpool is used?

There are other publications with similar results:

https://www.os3.nl/_media/2011-2012/courses/lia/rory_breuk_gerrie_veerman_-_
report.pdf (page 28)

http://www.mail-archive.com/pgpool-general(at)pgfoundry(dot)org/msg03326.html

Regards

Attachment Content-Type Size
pgbench_direct.log application/octet-stream 4.7 KB
pgbench_pgpool.log application/octet-stream 4.7 KB

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