Re: Code of Conduct: Is it time?

From: "Regina Obe" <lr(at)pcorp(dot)us>
To: "'Brian Dunavant'" <brian(at)omniti(dot)com>
Cc: "'Scott Mead'" <scottm(at)openscg(dot)com>, "'Adrian Klaver'" <adrian(dot)klaver(at)aklaver(dot)com>, "'Gavin Flower'" <GavinFlower(at)archidevsys(dot)co(dot)nz>, "'PostgreSQL General'" <pgsql-general(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: Code of Conduct: Is it time?
Date: 2016-01-11 18:23:34
Message-ID: 001201d14c9d$2ede6bc0$8c9b4340$@pcorp.us
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Brian,

>> We expect of everyone in our spaces to try their best to do the same
>> in a kind and gentle manner. If you feel it's just a minor offense and
>> the person didn't mean harm by it,
>>
>> simply ignore it unless the pattern of talk continues. If the person
>> continues or they say something you feel is very offensive or
>> degrading to another,
>
>> tell a project maintainer preferably off-list and we will talk with
>> the person to affect a change in their behavior or kick them out if we
>> determine behavior change is not possible.

> I am concerned about this particular wording as it implicitly assumes that the offended party is correct based on how they 'feel' and requires punishment of/change by the 'offender' regardless of the severity, or even validity of the claim. I don't think that is the intent, but that is how it reads (to me).

Good point. Rereading the last part, sounds like the victim is always right and is actually not needed since the next paragraph addresses it. So how is this:

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We expect of everyone in our spaces to try their best to do the same in a kind and gentle manner. If you feel it's just a minor offense and the person didn't mean harm by it,
simply ignore it unless the pattern of talk continues.

If anyone makes you feel uncomfortable and you feel they are purposely antagonistic please notify the project maintainer group at ... with the specific occurrence and evidence that made you feel this way.
We will judge if your complaints are valid and if we deem they are valid we will talk with the person to affect a change in their behavior or kick them out if we determine behavior change is not possible.

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Thanks,
Regina

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