Neil, I posted to the apple site asking if anyone could recommend the 'correct' place to edit these settings. I don't think a change like this would survive a system update..... But it was the only way I got the settings to 'take'. It deserves to be mentioned in the docs that this is necessary at least as far as 10.3.1 (osx). Ted --- Neil Conway <neilc@samurai.com> wrote:Theodore Petrosky <tedpet5@yahoo.com> writes:After about two hours of hunting pecking andanythingelse I found where you control this in OSX 10.3 you must edit the /etc/rc file./System/Library/StartupItems/SystemTuning/SystemTuningdoes nothing....Should we update the documentation's advice? At present, it suggests: MacOS X Edit the file/System/Library/StartupItems/SystemTuning/SystemTuningand change the following values: sysctl -w kern.sysv.shmmax sysctl -w kern.sysv.shmmin sysctl -w kern.sysv.shmmni sysctl -w kern.sysv.shmseg sysctl -w kern.sysv.shmall (Without a Mac OSX box, I have no idea which is correct.) -Neil__________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree ---------------------------(end of broadcast)--------------------------- TIP 9: the planner will ignore your desire to choose an index scan if your joining column's datatypes do not match